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deficit and on the fiscal cliff negotiations. this is where the rubber meets the road. this is where it's actually happening at the state level. at the local level. this is where all of that money that was released into the political system by citizens united is actually now paying off. >> yeah, and that is what's frightening nationwide because citizen's united opens the door everywhere. and we're seeing them searching for a model on how to do this. that is why even the detroit free press, in an editorial, and, again, this is a paper that had endorsed governor snyder two years ago. it says the right to work champions, the determination to emasculate once and for all the democratic parties most reliable source of financial and organizational support. now, senator, let me say this to you. if they can get away with it in michigan, michigan has 671,000 union members, 17.5% of the work force, fifth highest in the nation. if they can get away with it in michigan, they feel they can just steam roll all over the country. >> i think every
deficit and on the fiscal cliff negotiations. this is where the rubber meets the road. this is where it's actually happening at the state level. at the local level. this is where all of that money that was released into the political system by citizens united is actually now paying off. >> yeah, and that is what's frightening nationwide because citizen's united opens the door everywhere. and we're seeing them searching for a model on how to do this. that is why even the detroit free...
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his tough 2013 budget, targeting a deficit of just 1.8% of gdp, is expected to pass by christmas. the financial reformer postretirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just -- reformer's retirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just a month or two. berlusconi announced he would run again for prime minister. in a newspaper interview, the head of the euro bailout fund said that could mean more financial trouble ahead for italy and for the eurozone. italy has pushed through important reforms in the past year, he said. markets have honored this so far. however, they have acted with concern to the recent developments at the end of last week. u.s. ratings agency standard and poor's also expressed doubts about whether italy passed next government would remain committed to the next reforms -- italy's's next government would remain committed to the end -- italy's next government would remain committed to the reforms. >> our correspondents and does this report from the frankfurt stock exchange -- our correspondent sent us this report from th
his tough 2013 budget, targeting a deficit of just 1.8% of gdp, is expected to pass by christmas. the financial reformer postretirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just -- reformer's retirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just a month or two. berlusconi announced he would run again for prime minister. in a newspaper interview, the head of the euro bailout fund said that could mean more financial trouble ahead for italy and for the...
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the european union as steel is a fact that it was characterized by a certain democracy a democratic deficit which means. i'd like to have a domestic process for the future i don't really think there is going to be a conflict there's going to be an as the conflict but what i really thing is that i find a result a paradoxical final result of this wave or of this period of time a crisis could be the strengthening of the nation state and i think it will be a step backward and not a step forward ok i mean a lot of people say the solution for europe's problems is more europe ok but a lot of people on the ground are saying enough europe how do you square the circle well you need leadership of course the anxiety tells you i go back to the place where i feel comfortable the comfort zone is the nation state so far of course you have to show that there is a solution with more europe and not even more trouble i strongly believe in an economic crisis if america lentil on the end. of the names of the leaders are say we need to more coordinate these things people would agree and you make policy by policy
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him to recover and get bac if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the budget and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> welcome back. >>> here's what's happening. two australian deejays say their managers had approved the prank phone call to the london hospital where kate middleton was being treated. today the hosts went on say their joke went too far. the nurse who took the call was found dead on friday. the deejays' radio show has been canceled. >>> right now there's a manhunt under way for javon foster. police are call him a suspect in the deadly shooting of 20-year-old selena brown on a metro bus last night. it also injured brown's 2-year-old daughter. >>> there may be new hope for a deal to prevent the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama went to michigan today to promote
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any major structural changes to these programs. we will not block grant medicaid, and we wi
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are...
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so, yeah, this is something that's going to be put on the table along with the deficit increase and the debt limit, and so, yeah, i think boehner and others have that -- those cards that they can play. the problem is you've got right in front of you the more immediate concerns before you even get to the discussion about unemployment and insurance and the cost of those programs, the money that currently goes on-line or comes own line in terms of fiscal cliff spending and revenue raised in the next three weeks, and, yes, that's at the end of the month. they'll get through that, but, again, you want to have leverage when you have that conversation. that leverage is going to, i think, hinge off of what you were saying, and i think you're right. boehner has probably the better hand to play here given that really there's not a strong hand, but it's a better hand than what he otherwise would have in terms of negotiations. if he is just allowed get in the room and negotiate the deal because he knows he has all these other, you know, arrows in his quiver that he can use. >> i just -- i think it'
so, yeah, this is something that's going to be put on the table along with the deficit increase and the debt limit, and so, yeah, i think boehner and others have that -- those cards that they can play. the problem is you've got right in front of you the more immediate concerns before you even get to the discussion about unemployment and insurance and the cost of those programs, the money that currently goes on-line or comes own line in terms of fiscal cliff spending and revenue raised in the...
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the hearing followed a government report that projects $16 billion deficit in the fha fund. this hearing before the senate banking committee runs about 90 minutes. >> i call this hearing to order. i ask you to testify today -- [inaudible] i would like you to tell the committee -- gain insight into the fiscal challenges of the fha. what they can do to mitigate losses -- [inaudible]. fha has been helping to stabilize the mortgage markets by ensuring that qualified loans, and for some home buyers have access to mortgage credit since 1934. the beginning of the financial crisis, the fha has increased its market share from below 5% in 2006, to about 30% in 2009, in pursuit of that mission. this was essential to the market, especially for first-time homebuyers who comprise 78% -- [inaudible] fha's multi-family health insurance programs have also played an important part of the cyclical role since the financial crisis which was a fourfold increase in volume since 2008 to 2011. according to market committee, -- [inaudible] the housing market is in pretty. >> however, providing the ba
the hearing followed a government report that projects $16 billion deficit in the fha fund. this hearing before the senate banking committee runs about 90 minutes. >> i call this hearing to order. i ask you to testify today -- [inaudible] i would like you to tell the committee -- gain insight into the fiscal challenges of the fha. what they can do to mitigate losses -- [inaudible]. fha has been helping to stabilize the mortgage markets by ensuring that qualified loans, and for some home...
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it will increase the deficit. that's newt gingrich in 1993 on the clinton tax increase and those of us working on the other side of the tax increase have been waiting for your apology for 20 years for being completely wrong about that. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ >> let's give the boy a hand ♪ >> how did newt react? >> stephanie: he was untenable to his own [ bleep ] >> i don't agree with you on that. >> 20 years ago, you said it. >> stephanie: the economy soared. no one lost a job. gingrich baloney. there's no way to penetrate his -- like denial. he said there was no recession. there was no recession. then he just -- that's a bunch of -- if you look at all of the indicators -- okay. >> stephanie: lawrence o'donnell was right. brian in dales you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi brian. >> caller: hey seductive stephanie. been waiting an hour to talk to you. >> stephanie: hey. go ahead. >> caller: i was giving a call in the interest of journalistic integrity, i heard something about mark 25 and obviousl
it will increase the deficit. that's newt gingrich in 1993 on the clinton tax increase and those of us working on the other side of the tax increase have been waiting for your apology for 20 years for being completely wrong about that. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ >> let's give the boy a hand ♪ >> how did newt react? >> stephanie: he was untenable to his own [ bleep ] >> i don't agree with you on that. >> 20 years ago, you said it. >> stephanie: the...
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. >> i think the overhyping of deficit, the deficit mania that is seized this town is kind of crazy. i mean i love alan simpson and erskine bowles, they're talking about inflation at a moment when people are paying us money to invest in our treasury bonds? jenna: charles payne, fox business network. he has his own list what we should worry about, charles, who is right here? >> reporter: i got to tell you the idea people are giving us money, america to our treasury bonds doesn't necessarily mean it is a vote of confidence in america. means the alternatives, traditional alternatives like europe are so much scarier but that is the path we're going down, jenna. it is disingenuous to suggest, hey, the federal reserve is printing money to buy treasury bonds somehow that means inflation is not a big deal. somehow 16 trillion in debt going north of 20 trillion in debt is not a big deal. it is a big deal. the correct answer, everyone, everyone watching this show, i don't care if you're working or not working, you will be negative impacted what is going on in washington right now. jenna: what
. >> i think the overhyping of deficit, the deficit mania that is seized this town is kind of crazy. i mean i love alan simpson and erskine bowles, they're talking about inflation at a moment when people are paying us money to invest in our treasury bonds? jenna: charles payne, fox business network. he has his own list what we should worry about, charles, who is right here? >> reporter: i got to tell you the idea people are giving us money, america to our treasury bonds doesn't...
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and any tax increases should go direct to deficit reduction. take away the hey, everything goes into the general fund because it certainly seems like when you're fibbing about 35% and 75% truths that really all they're after isn't fixing the economy, it's your bucks. back to you. >> all right. rick, breaking it down like no one else can. rick santelli with the santelli exchange. tweet time now. mcdone old's november sales getting a cheddar bacon boost. sales figures in the u.s. rising 2.5% as customers chomped down on the limited time cheddar bacon onion sandwiches. so what is the next menu innovation that could propel mcd? tweet us @squawk street. we've got some of your answers right after this. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. [ male announcer ] break from the holid
and any tax increases should go direct to deficit reduction. take away the hey, everything goes into the general fund because it certainly seems like when you're fibbing about 35% and 75% truths that really all they're after isn't fixing the economy, it's your bucks. back to you. >> all right. rick, breaking it down like no one else can. rick santelli with the santelli exchange. tweet time now. mcdone old's november sales getting a cheddar bacon boost. sales figures in the u.s. rising...
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um, the budget deficit, um, and then foreign policy. so the four top issues were the same in a slightly different order than they were for the rest of the electorate. um, the budget deficit and health care were in opposite places for the rest of the electorate. um, time it was a little more -- this time it was a little more those domestic issues, those domestic-driven issues than four years ago in my experience. again, part of that is where the media was focused, and the nature of the spanish-speaking community in south florida that's particularly foreign policy driven. but this time even that community wasn't -- and to the extent i was talking about foreign policy, i was talking about benghazi rather than cuba. >> last question, you didn't use the word immigration. immigration was not in that -- >> it came up a little, it came up -- >> a little bit. >> it came up a little bit, and it came up in the following way, um, people wanted to know that the president cared about the issue. they wanted to understand why it hadn't been achieved in
um, the budget deficit, um, and then foreign policy. so the four top issues were the same in a slightly different order than they were for the rest of the electorate. um, the budget deficit and health care were in opposite places for the rest of the electorate. um, time it was a little more -- this time it was a little more those domestic issues, those domestic-driven issues than four years ago in my experience. again, part of that is where the media was focused, and the nature of the...
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the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this world where we may spend, and we may even have a pop from government spending. it's never sustained. and all it creates is this huge discussion which underminds business confidence of how we're going to pay for the debt. we have exposed, i think, the achilles heel of keynesian economics. >> i broadly agree with you. in 2008, 2009, i think the fiscal stimulus made a lot of sense. but i think that we're at a point now where the economy is strong enough that we need to get started on the fiscal adjustment. we've got to make sure it's not too many. i'd say something on the order
the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this...
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tomorrow, the meeting begins and we'll get trade deficit figures. wednesday is import prices and that fed decision along with ben bernan bernanke's news conference. theirs, jobless claims and november sales on ppi. on friday, we'll get consumer prices and industrial production. check in now on european markets, the ftse mib now at session lows down .6%. ibex 35 in spain also an underperformer. it was down greater than 2%. it's just shy of that level now. portugal seeing weakness as investors show some concern about the periphery in light of political news this morning and u.s. investors are feeling a strong hit. after a strong session on friday, they're giving up some of those gains. dow is looking to shed about 34 points now, similar decline for the nasdaq and the sep. let's head over to michael gurka. good monday morning, i should say. we're not necessarily starting off with a great tone this week. what do you expect to be the key theme here? >> well, you know what? you can never dismiss the fed meeting, especially at this time of the year conside
tomorrow, the meeting begins and we'll get trade deficit figures. wednesday is import prices and that fed decision along with ben bernan bernanke's news conference. theirs, jobless claims and november sales on ppi. on friday, we'll get consumer prices and industrial production. check in now on european markets, the ftse mib now at session lows down .6%. ibex 35 in spain also an underperformer. it was down greater than 2%. it's just shy of that level now. portugal seeing weakness as investors...
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we say don't reduce the deficit now this fast. that is what the fiscal cliff is all about and that's why ben bernanke cannot put the phrase. guest: as exactly right, we have two very different problems. the only reason we're talking about the second issue is politics. this is the politics of the moment tromping economic common sense which is a dangerous combination. guest: the fiscal solution is a fig leaf to allow members of congress to say we're going to spend so the spending cuts and tax increases and let the deficit be $500 billion higher. host: the debt is at $16.30 trillion and has increased $4 trillion over the last four years. the present and congress will say that over the next 10 years, we will get it back to where was in 2009, correct? guest: that is fundamentally not good enough. countries with our level of indebtedness grow more slowly and they have a higher chance of some sort of fiscal crisis. we should not mess with either one of those things. i would like to see an aggressive reform of the spending programs. with
we say don't reduce the deficit now this fast. that is what the fiscal cliff is all about and that's why ben bernanke cannot put the phrase. guest: as exactly right, we have two very different problems. the only reason we're talking about the second issue is politics. this is the politics of the moment tromping economic common sense which is a dangerous combination. guest: the fiscal solution is a fig leaf to allow members of congress to say we're going to spend so the spending cuts and tax...
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he has he has not met his targets he is not going to do with the deficit he said the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge car made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people because we are going to suffer the most i was resolved to go for it and there's no end to the force don't know what it's because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to hit a huge new. it's about forty seven billion pounds from the benefits we're talking about this is a movie on the bread line anyway even losing ten twenty pounds a week is a big hit i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospect for britain's pool because they are going to the ground to be starved to see cool spot christmas by the old school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us also say there's a cause for concern he said i'm going picking through the thing is one thing cutting through all the waste and that's the case is going to be set to have to place it so even tough because even all
he has he has not met his targets he is not going to do with the deficit he said the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge car made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people because we are going to suffer the most i was resolved to go for it and there's no end to the force don't know what it's because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to hit a huge new. it's about forty seven...
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he has failed he has not met his targets he is not going to deal with the deficit as he said the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge car made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer the most i was resolved to do so and those who are into this will start to know when it's because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to hit a huge no. it's about forty seven billion pounds so it will be cut from the benefits bill and we're talking about farmers is a really on the bread line anyway even losing ten twenty pounds a week is a good i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospect for britain's poor because they are going to bear the brunt of the austerity course by britons by the whole school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for telling us that also say there is a cause for concern as he said i don't pay anything the thing is that one thing cutting through all they statistics and that's the case is going to
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every target of themselves he has failed he has not met his targets he's not going to deal with the deficit. growth we grow and also there's going to be a huge cart made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer the most as a result of it and there's no end to this austerity and some now when it's. just one percent and then the well that's less than inflation here that's really going to hit a huge number of books forty seven billion pounds so it will be cut from the benefits we're talking about farmers is a really on the bread line anyway even losing ten twenty pounds is a big i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's very cold prospects for britain's poor because they are going to bear the brunt of the start caused by christmas by the whole school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us also say there is a cause for concern he said i won't pay anything the thing is one thing cutting through all the waste and that's. going to be said to have to replace it so even talk of even more starting the greek prime minister is on
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he has failed he has not met his targets he's not going to deal with the deficit as he said the road growth. and also there's going to be a huge car made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer. as a result of this. and there's no end to this austerity and some i wanted to tell about that we saw just one percent for the benefit of the well that's less than inflation here that's really going to hit a huge number of books forty seven billion pounds so it will be cut from the benefits we're talking about from this is a really on the breadline anyway even losing ten twenty pounds a week. i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospects for britain's pool because they are going to bear the brunt of the starting course by christmas by this is all school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us also say there's a lot of course the concern is he said i'm going picking through the thing is one thing cutting through all the states and that's the way it's going to be set i have to place it so they even talk u
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as much and the democrats talking about reducing the deficit. not only will the market go down but we'll have a recession. the market will go crazy on the upside. we will have dealt with the biggest uncertainty, not taxes, the deficit. >> going over the cliff, governor won't get that done because then you have the debt ceiling. there's other provisions you have to deal with. it will not get that done. it will cause further issues that will be resolved later on. >> only if the debt ceiling gets carved into it. one is not linked to the other. >> we can be talking about one not linked to the other. if we go over the cliff, we have to reveal the debt ceiling. at that point and time, the question about the debt ceiling is that much more important. it will have to be raised. as a republican, a proud republican, i am willing to sit here and say we probably need to give some on taxes. there's no question about it. this president also needs to give and show real leadership. if he doesn't, if he wants to punish the wealthy or those in the top 1% and say h
as much and the democrats talking about reducing the deficit. not only will the market go down but we'll have a recession. the market will go crazy on the upside. we will have dealt with the biggest uncertainty, not taxes, the deficit. >> going over the cliff, governor won't get that done because then you have the debt ceiling. there's other provisions you have to deal with. it will not get that done. it will cause further issues that will be resolved later on. >> only if the debt...
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every target of themselves he has failed he has not met his targets he's not going to deal with the deficit as he said the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge cart made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people because we are going to suffer the most i was resolved to go for it and those who are into this will start to get some now when it's talked about because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to hit a huge you know. it's about forty seven billion pounds from the benefits bill and we're talking about farmers is a really on the bread line anyway even losing ten twenty pounds is a big i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospect for britain's poor because they are going to bear the brunt of the austerity caused by britain by also doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us also say there's a lot of course the concern is he said i won't take anything the thing is the one thing i think through all of. us the ek is going to be said t
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can get from his tax rates on the rich, even if he got his buffet tax, it does nothing to solve the deficit problem. so, he knows eventually taxes are going to have to hit the middle class. a number of ways to do that, one is a vat tax, a carbon tax on energy and another is raising income rates on everyone, and if he can blame that on republicans, this might be the way to get na started. >> i'm going to have to disagree on the politics of what james says, dan. i think the president can't let that alternative minimum tax hit because the pressure from his own party and from senators up for reelection in 2014, the democrats, would be enormous. >> i kind of agree, james, i think that would be an achilles heel for the democrats, the third rail as we say, they don't want to go, i agree with you, paul, that the game here is to hang this on the republicans, and then pitch that forward, i've said this before, to those mid term elections. they want to bring the republicans down in the house and i think that's the strategy behind what's going on here. the idea that you're going to do all of these tax
can get from his tax rates on the rich, even if he got his buffet tax, it does nothing to solve the deficit problem. so, he knows eventually taxes are going to have to hit the middle class. a number of ways to do that, one is a vat tax, a carbon tax on energy and another is raising income rates on everyone, and if he can blame that on republicans, this might be the way to get na started. >> i'm going to have to disagree on the politics of what james says, dan. i think the president can't...
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it is not -- it shouldn't even be discussed in the deficit because it doesn't add to the deficit. medicare we have in the obama care we put into reform. i mean, the republicans just finished telling us that it was terrible that we cut $716 billion out of medicare, and that was terrible. now they want to add a lot more cuts. i think that the cuts we made in medicare were enough. they should not impact beneficiaries. and we shouldn't do anything that will at this point. those cuts may very well over a long period of time put medicare on a sustainable basis. we shouldn't do anything further to medicare until whether we see that works out. >> but you acknowledge a deal is not likely to get done without some reforms to entitlements. >> i do not acknowledge that and if a deal doesn't get done, it doesn't get done. >> you're prepared to go over the cliff as well? >> absolutely. >> it sounds -- >> it's not a cliff, by the way. and understand this. people keep talking about the republicans deliberately created this emergency. in order to blackmail the country. and the emergency here, the c
it is not -- it shouldn't even be discussed in the deficit because it doesn't add to the deficit. medicare we have in the obama care we put into reform. i mean, the republicans just finished telling us that it was terrible that we cut $716 billion out of medicare, and that was terrible. now they want to add a lot more cuts. i think that the cuts we made in medicare were enough. they should not impact beneficiaries. and we shouldn't do anything that will at this point. those cuts may very well...
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that rate should go up on upper income americans to help close the deficit that we're facing right now. >> so we know that china obviously has a vested interest in our economy. it sounds to me by your description they prefer the president's plan. >> there was a lot of discussion about the president's plan. but they also just -- they want to see america make a decision. the world is watching what we're doing. and the one thing i did experience certainly in china was a lot of decisions get made and then investment is made. it's pretty much one right after the other. we tend to have a long debate about what we're going to do and get down to crunch time and then suddenly something happens. i think we can't afford to have that happen right now. as a lady said on the previous clip, just a store owner, make a decision. try to make it as soon as possible. let's not go into this holiday season with this level of uncertainty. business people, small, medium and large not knowing what's going on. the world is watching. >> yes. she said so very colorfully i might add. >> i didn't repeat that part.
that rate should go up on upper income americans to help close the deficit that we're facing right now. >> so we know that china obviously has a vested interest in our economy. it sounds to me by your description they prefer the president's plan. >> there was a lot of discussion about the president's plan. but they also just -- they want to see america make a decision. the world is watching what we're doing. and the one thing i did experience certainly in china was a lot of...
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but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >>> holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the jobs report released yesterday. retail hirers hired more people than any month on record since 1939. 146,000 jobs were added to the economy last month, and the unemployment rate fell to a four-year low of 7.7% partly because thousands have just simply stopped looking for work. >>> more good news for your wallet. gas prices are down to an average of $3.36. it is the 16th consecutive time the price has dropped. the highest price for a gallon of regular is in high where it's $4.02. >>> he served his party as a republican, and now charlie crist is a proud democrat. he posted a twitter photo showing his registration papers, showing he is proud and honored to join the party in the home of president obama. cr
but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >>> holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the jobs report released yesterday. retail hirers hired more people than any month on record since...
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and under this president he's run up $7 trillion in deficits. he's averaged a deficit of 9% of gdp. george bush was 2% to 3% of gdp. so, you know, i think the discussion is is it really a tax problem or a tax and a spending problem? if we agree it is spending, let's start to talk about some of the spending. >> where will the compromise come, though? is there room to compromise on the tax percentage, or if you do the sliding scale and move it from the 250,000 benchmark to 500,000 income earnings benchmark. >> i think the discussion the speaker advanced which matches what the president talked about in terms of his campaign of $800 billion in new revenues, getting there through less deductions is on the table. at this point we want to see, mr. president you show us yours and we'll show us ours. these negotiations go step by step closer and closer. i do agree with an early panelist that said the president probably wants to be a little bit freer from his base and so does the speaker to some degree. we are very interested in the spending cuts, and i can tell you that if the president give
and under this president he's run up $7 trillion in deficits. he's averaged a deficit of 9% of gdp. george bush was 2% to 3% of gdp. so, you know, i think the discussion is is it really a tax problem or a tax and a spending problem? if we agree it is spending, let's start to talk about some of the spending. >> where will the compromise come, though? is there room to compromise on the tax percentage, or if you do the sliding scale and move it from the 250,000 benchmark to 500,000 income...
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learned that, you know, you do need revenue and the only way you're going to get revenues or get to the deficit number they want is to have both revenues and spending cuts. the only way to get the spending cuts and entitlements from the president they want is to give him some political revenues. >> when john boehner made his offer there were signatures of all the republican leaders on that letter, including cantor and paul ryan, viewed as a future presidential candidate among republicans. so by locking down those signatures on that $00 billion of new taxes, he's blocked those guys from opposing him. very savvy. >> did anybody phone some of the quemplets offer the budget committees? >> he did in order to demonstrate his power. gain bah boehner has been here a long time. he saw the coup attempt to speaker gingrich by members of his old party. he knows he has to hold those people together to negotiate with the president. he saw a little bit of wiggle room earlier with jim demint coming out earlier and said he thought the tax offer was an outrage. from the right you can see the speaker tamping that
learned that, you know, you do need revenue and the only way you're going to get revenues or get to the deficit number they want is to have both revenues and spending cuts. the only way to get the spending cuts and entitlements from the president they want is to give him some political revenues. >> when john boehner made his offer there were signatures of all the republican leaders on that letter, including cantor and paul ryan, viewed as a future presidential candidate among republicans....
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it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immediate problem for most people, the weak economy is. >> i agree. >> and if we dive off the fiscal cliff, the economy could get much weaker. that's -- >> by the way -- >> -- millions of americans. it's a problem for barack obama. >> just to back you up, i really think the great thing is the economy is just starting to lift up. the unemployment rate is really starting to come down. we're getting good job production. thank you so much, ladies, for coming on tonight. thanks for the sharp thinking we >> just to back you up, i really think the great thing is the economy is just starting to lift up. the unemployment rate is really starting to come down. we're getting good job production. thank you so much, ladies, for coming on tonight. thanks for the sharp thinking we got tonight. >>> up next, if you can't win by the rules, change them. that's what republicans are trying to do in pennsylvania. they don't like the
it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immediate problem for most people, the weak economy is. >> i agree. >> and if we dive off the fiscal cliff, the economy could get much weaker. that's -- >> by the way -- >> -- millions of americans. it's a problem for barack obama. >> just to back you up, i really think the great thing is the economy is just starting to lift up. the unemployment rate is really...
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if we have a budget deficit at all, it is only fair. and you don't have to be -- again you don't have to be a republican, you can be a common sense republican to understand that this requires that the bush tax cuts not be extended for the richest 2%. it is finally getting through. and i think that, again, as richard said, you can be as clever as you want. you can make all kinds of pretensions. you can abstain, you can do whatever you want to do. this is going through. >> when we talk about abstentions and kibuki theater, that's obviously small ball. but the fact that the president and the vice president are saying we are not going to allow congress to have the power to fight another war over the debt ceiling. >> yeah. >> that to me is a real line in the sand. >> it is. >> republicans are not going to give that up without serious concessions from the democrats. what do you make of it? >> there are going to be spending cuts in this deal, right. this isn't just about tax cuts for the super wealthy. there will be spending cuts. this is wher
if we have a budget deficit at all, it is only fair. and you don't have to be -- again you don't have to be a republican, you can be a common sense republican to understand that this requires that the bush tax cuts not be extended for the richest 2%. it is finally getting through. and i think that, again, as richard said, you can be as clever as you want. you can make all kinds of pretensions. you can abstain, you can do whatever you want to do. this is going through. >> when we talk...
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now let's former cbo director says these cuts fail to control the greatest deficit challenge, federal health care spending. >> the future path of mandatory has been clear for a decade now. it is largely driven by health care costs and baby boom and every cbo director come to the same conclusion. you can't grow your way out of it. you can not tax your way out of it. you must change these programs. >> democrats argue if the government cuts too much spending the economy will slow further. back to you. david: rich edson, thank you very much, rich. lauren: with all the uncertainty surrounding fiscal cliff should you invest differently right now? david: one economist says investors have to look beyond the fiscal crisis. we have senior economist at oppenheimer fund joins us now. more than that, what you say you've got the perfect split. -p60/40, 60 being equities and 40 being dot, dot, dot, something else. how do you devise, some people are gold bugs say it is all gold. cash bugs, say you have to be flexible, keep it in cash. how do you divide the 40% not in equities? >> first of all we took
now let's former cbo director says these cuts fail to control the greatest deficit challenge, federal health care spending. >> the future path of mandatory has been clear for a decade now. it is largely driven by health care costs and baby boom and every cbo director come to the same conclusion. you can't grow your way out of it. you can not tax your way out of it. you must change these programs. >> democrats argue if the government cuts too much spending the economy will slow...
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would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea of the president, john boehner, the key players, getting together with no staff in the room. the second thing, they've got to be guided by a couple of things. number one, what is best for the nation? not my party, not my philosophy, not necessarily my politics. number two -- >> you'd like it one on one. >> editd' i'd like it one on on discuss specifics in a one on one way. second, they may agree there should be short-term steps and long-term steps, i think we can get there. the nation is counting on them doing something significant. >> saints/giants this weekend? >> i've got to go for the saints. i'm -- >> they both need a win. >> g
would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea...
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we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of minnesota, i wrote that i thought he would have made the strongest presidential candidate. tim is now the head of the financial services roundtable, a job he took a month or two ago and he will be a huge player in washington. chris i have to say, first of all you kept two-thirds of your own district but your margins didn't go down at all. maybe a little bit. i know the county, one county represents for my son as and let's just say -- is a liberal but he did an incredible job. two senators now and on mars reminded when bob dole left the house to go to the senate, the single act -- [inaudible] bob c
we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of...
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so security trust fund doesn't have anything to do with the debt and deficit. but the idea that we're going to simply kick the can on that and have across the board social security cuts, you know, 15 years from now because we didn't step up responsibly i think does a great disservice to those who expected to have those benefits when they reach retirement age. >> senator mark warner, thank you for your time today. >> thank you, richard. >>> let's bring in our political power panel, melinda, democratic strategist morris reed. let's start with you hogan. i want to start with this. senator harry reid used an interesting analogy on the floor to describe the current state of the republican party. listen to this first. >> he's got a problem. he has three quarter backs, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, a guy by the name of mcilroy. he can't describe who is going to be the quarterback. that's the same problem that the republicans are having. romney is there but he's in the background. who is the quarterback, mr. president. >> hogan, what do you think? who's the quarterback?
so security trust fund doesn't have anything to do with the debt and deficit. but the idea that we're going to simply kick the can on that and have across the board social security cuts, you know, 15 years from now because we didn't step up responsibly i think does a great disservice to those who expected to have those benefits when they reach retirement age. >> senator mark warner, thank you for your time today. >> thank you, richard. >>> let's bring in our political power...